Jung:It's generally thought to be the man who should take the initiative.
Sabina:Don't you think there's something male in every woman?And something female in every man?
Or should be?
Jung:Explain this analogy you make between the sex instinct and the death instinct.
Sabina:Professor Freud claims that the sextual drive arises from a simple urge towards pleasure.If he is right,the question is why is this urge so often successfully repressed?
Jung:You used to have a theory involving the impulse towards destruction and self-destruction,losing oneself.
Sabina:Well,suppose we think of sexuality as fusion losing oneself,as you say,but losing oneself in the other,in other words,destroying one's own individuality.Wouldn't the ego,in self-defense,automatically resist that impulse?
Jung:You mean for sefish not for social reasons?
Sabina:Yes.I'm saying that perhaps true sexuality demands the destruction of the ego.
Freud:Do you really think the secual drive is a demonic and destructive force?
Sanina:Yes,at the same time as being a creative force,in the sense,that it can produce out of the destruction of two individualities a new being.But the individual must always overcome resistance becuase of the self-annihilating nature of the sexual act.